Return-Path: X-Original-To: u7f01aa@mail.lrz-muenchen.de Delivered-To: u7f01aa@mail.lrz-muenchen.de Received: from lxmhs09.lrz-muenchen.de (mailha09.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.254.30]) by mailin.lrz-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E166A8CD for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de (mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de [10.156.6.1]) by lxmhs09.lrz-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFEBC0011B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lxmhs13.lrz-muenchen.de (lxmhs13.lrz-muenchen.de [10.156.6.206]) by mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP for Hans.Strasburger@lrz.uni-muenchen.de; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:40 +0200 Received: from mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de (lxmhs03.lrz-muenchen.de [10.156.6.201]) by lxmhs13.lrz-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C752980A23B for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from scan3.mail.lrz.de (scan3.mail.lrz.de [10.156.6.37]) by mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP for strasburger@uni-muenchen.de; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:39 +0200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at lrz.de in 37 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.007 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, LRZ_FROM_PRE_SURa=0.001, LRZ_HAS_ORGANIZATION=0.001, LRZ_HAS_SENDER=0.001, LRZ_MSGID_FROM_ADDR=0.001, LRZ_MSGID_FROM_DOMAIN=0.001, LRZ_TO_SHORT=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de ([10.156.6.201]) by scan3.mail.lrz.de (scan3.mail.lrz.de [10.156.6.23]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FZPTTUNMJLhR for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from postrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de ([10.156.6.9] [10.156.6.9]) by mailrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP for strasburger@uni-muenchen.de; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:39 +0200 Received: from visionscience.com (visionscience.com [128.121.194.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by postrelay1.lrz-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFC4D2400063 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:15:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from abwatson1.best.vwh.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visionscience.com (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6LI9nFO019496; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:20:34 GMT Received: from schepens.harvard.edu (mail.eri.harvard.edu [128.103.8.17]) by visionscience.com (8.14.4/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o6LGKhb1072517 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:20:43 GMT Received: from bexlabi7.localnet (e05-038.eri.harvard.edu [192.168.5.38]) by schepens.harvard.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o6LGKMfT016275 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:20:22 -0400 From: Michael Dorr Organization: Schepens Eye Research Institute To: visionlist@visionscience.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:20:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.2 (Linux/2.6.32-23-generic; KDE/4.4.2; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201007211220.42196.michael.dorr@schepens.harvard.edu> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:50:53 +0000 Subject: [visionlist] 120 Hz TFTs with Full HD resolution X-BeenThere: visionlist@visionscience.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list List-Id: Vision Science Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: visionlist-bounces@visionscience.com Errors-To: visionlist-bounces@visionscience.com Dear VisionList, (my first attempt at posting this seems to have failed, but my apologies if this gets sent twice) TFTs are catching up with CRTs in terms of refresh rate as more and more 120 Hz models are becoming available, but the potential lag of TFTs because of their internal digital processing is still a major issue. A while ago, Sol Simpson reported (http://visionscience.com/pipermail/visionlist/2009/003419.html) that the Samsung 2233RZ and the ViewSonic VX2265wm run at true 120 Hz, have no internal frame buffering, and update the display in a scanning fashion (top to bottom). In the meantime, even TFTs with 120 Hz and Full HD resolution (1920 by 1080 pixels) have become available (Acer GD235HZ, Alienware OptX AW2310) or at least have been announced (to our knowledge, LG W2363D, Asus PG276H, ViewSonic V3D241wm). We have measured the Acer GD235HZ with a photodiode and found that it does add a 17ms delay (apparently buffering one 60 Hz frame) compared to e.g. a CRT or the ViewSonic VX2265wm (however, it also runs with true 120 Hz and updates in a scanning fashion). Because we want to run (low-latency) gaze-contingent algorithms on a Full HD display, we would like to hear whether anyone has done similar measurements with the Alienware TFT already (or knows of another alternative). If anyone had such a display in the Boston area, we would also gladly come round and measure it. Best regards, Michael -- Postdoctoral Research Fellow Schepens Eye Research Institute, Department of Ophthalmology, Harvard Medical School, 20 Staniford Street, Boston 02114 _______________________________________________ visionlist mailing list visionlist@visionscience.com http://visionscience.com/mailman/listinfo/visionlist