[vslist] Persistency in CRTs, oscilloscopes
Andrew Watson
abwatson@mail.arc.nasa.gov
Thu Mar 7 12:26:00 2002
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A quick check of PubMed shows some fairly recent and possibly useful
reports on this subject:
[1] M. A. Garcia-Perez and E. Peli, "Luminance artifacts of
cathode-ray tube displays for vision research," Spat Vis, vol. 14,
pp. 201-15, 2001.
[2] V. Di Lollo, J. T. Enns, S. Yantis, and L. G. Dechief,
"Response latencies to the onset and offset of visual stimuli,"
Percept Psychophys, vol. 62, pp. 218-25, 2000.
[3] M. Bach, "A note on luminance calibration of raster-scan
cathode-ray tubes: temporal resolution, ripple, and accuracy," Spat
Vis, vol. 10, pp. 485-9, 1997.
[4] V. Di Lollo, A. E. Seiffert, G. Burchett, R. Rabeeh, and T.
A. Ruman, "Phosphor persistence of oscilloscopic displays: a
comparison of four phosphors," Spat Vis, vol. 10, pp. 353-60, 1997.
[5] W. Wolf and H. Deubel, "P31 phosphor persistence at photopic
mean luminance level," Spat Vis, vol. 10, pp. 323-33, 1997.
[6] D. E. Irwin, "On the measurement of phosphor persistence in
oscilloscopic displays," Vision Res, vol. 34, pp. 1623, 1994.
[7] V. Di Lollo, W. F. Bischof, P. U. Walther-Muller, M. T.
Groner, and R. Groner, "Phosphor persistence in oscilloscopic
displays: its luminance and visibility," Vision Res, vol. 34, pp.
1619-20, 1994.
[8] G. Westheimer, "Phosphor persistence in oscilloscopic
displays," Vision Res, vol. 33, pp. 2337-8, 1993.
[9] R. Groner, M. T. Groner, P. Muller, W. F. Bischof, and V. Di
Lollo, "On the confounding effects of phosphor persistence in
oscilloscopic displays," Vision Res, vol. 33, pp. 913-7, 1993.
[10] C. Neary and A. J. Wilkins, "Effects of phosphor persistence
on perception and the control of eye movements," Perception, vol. 18,
pp. 257-64, 1989.
>We require a display with fast refresh rates and very short
>persistency. From the literature, many opted
>for oscilloscopes such as the Tektronix 608 that uses the
>fast-fading P15 phosphor. From our vendor,
>however, we are told this model is based on analog technology "dead
>for 10 years".
>
>Can anyone advice on what displays are nowadays used when fast
>refresh and short persistency is
>required? What is, for instance, the persistency of a flashed image
>on a "regular" PC monitor?
>
>Also, I find no CRT monitors with vertical refresh rates in excess
>of >160 Hz. Do faster monitors exist?
>Again, for how long does the image leave a trace behind when flashed
>on these monitors?
>
>For newer, digital, oscilloscopes, the persistency is tunable, but
>apparently only down to 50 msec. Are
>there better performers than this? Manufacturers? Models?
>
>Per Magne Knutsen
>
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<div>A quick check of PubMed shows some fairly recent and possibly
useful reports on this subject:</div>
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<div><font color="#000000">[1]<x-tab>
</x-tab>M. A. Garcia-Perez and E. Peli, "Luminance artifacts of
cathode-ray tube displays for vision research,"<i> Spat Vis</i>,
vol. 14, pp. 201-15, 2001.<br>
[2]<x-tab> </x-tab>V. Di Lollo, J. T. Enns, S. Yantis, and L. G.
Dechief, "Response latencies to the onset and offset of visual
stimuli,"<i> Percept Psychophys</i>, vol. 62, pp. 218-25, 2000.<br>
[3]<x-tab> </x-tab>M. Bach,
"A note on luminance calibration of raster-scan cathode-ray tubes:
temporal resolution, ripple, and accuracy,"<i> Spat Vis</i>, vol.
10, pp. 485-9, 1997.<br>
[4]<x-tab> </x-tab>V. Di Lollo, A. E. Seiffert, G. Burchett, R.
Rabeeh, and T. A. Ruman, "Phosphor persistence of oscilloscopic
displays: a comparison of four phosphors,"<i> Spat Vis</i>, vol. 10,
pp. 353-60, 1997.<br>
[5]<x-tab> </x-tab>W. Wolf and H. Deubel, "P31 phosphor persistence
at photopic mean luminance level,"<i> Spat Vis</i>, vol. 10, pp.
323-33, 1997.<br>
[6]<x-tab> </x-tab>D. E. Irwin, "On the
measurement of phosphor persistence in oscilloscopic displays,"<i>
Vision Res</i>, vol. 34, pp. 1623, 1994.<br>
[7]<x-tab> </x-tab>V. Di Lollo, W. F. Bischof, P. U.
Walther-Muller, M. T. Groner, and R. Groner, "Phosphor persistence
in oscilloscopic displays: its luminance and visibility,"<i> Vision
Res</i>, vol. 34, pp. 1619-20, 1994.<br>
[8]<x-tab> </x-tab>G. Westheimer,
"Phosphor persistence in oscilloscopic displays,"<i> Vision
Res</i>, vol. 33, pp. 2337-8, 1993.<br>
[9]<x-tab> </x-tab>R. Groner, M. T.
Groner, P. Muller, W. F. Bischof, and V. Di Lollo, "On the
confounding effects of phosphor persistence in oscilloscopic
displays,"<i> Vision Res</i>, vol. 33, pp. 913-7, 1993.</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">[10]<x-tab> </x-tab>C.
Neary and A. J. Wilkins, "Effects of phosphor persistence on
perception and the control of eye movements,"<i> Perception</i>,
vol. 18, pp. 257-64, 1989.</font></div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>We require a display with fast refresh
rates and very short persistency. From the literature, many opted<br>
for oscilloscopes such as the Tektronix 608 that uses the fast-fading
P15 phosphor. From our vendor,<br>
however, we are told this model is based on analog technology
"dead for 10 years".<br>
<br>
Can anyone advice on what displays are nowadays used when fast refresh
and short persistency is<br>
required? What is, for instance, the persistency of a flashed image on
a "regular" PC monitor?<br>
<br>
Also, I find no CRT monitors with vertical refresh rates in excess of
>160 Hz. Do faster monitors exist?<br>
Again, for how long does the image leave a trace behind when flashed
on these monitors?<br>
<br>
For newer, digital, oscilloscopes, the persistency is tunable, but
apparently only down to 50 msec. Are</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>there better performers than this?
Manufacturers? Models?<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Per Magne Knutsen<br>
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